Thursday, April 06, 2006
Here's another hand that I posted on pokerpoker as an example of some less than formidable play on my part.
I think the fact that I called and he showed Aces is far less relevant or interesting than the actual play of the hand. You see, regardless of the outcome I feel I played this hand very badly on the flop.
Preflop there is one of two possibilities; either I'm ahead or I'm behind. If I believe that I am behind, then I am drawing to 2 outs on the flop which I will hit roughly 12% of the time. So, in order for me to call the re-raise from behind I have to have implied odds of at least 8.4:1 which, in this case, I do. So, calling from behind here pre-flop is not terrible. If I miss I can check-fold. If I hit I can lead into the raiser for 1/2 to 2/3 the pot and I should stack him when he comes over top of me all-in (if I had pocket 8s here instead of 9s I would have taken all his money).
If I believe I am ahead, then there are two further possibilities; I'm either way ahead or slightly ahead. For me to be way ahead, he would have to have a smaller pair and even though he is a LAG player I do not see him re-raising with 88 or lower. For me to be slightly ahead he would have to be holding 2 overs, the most likely of which are Ace King. This is what I put him on, I believed he had AK.
Given that I put him on AK, leading the flop here is terrible. I make no money if I am ahead, and I am forced to jeapordize my entire stack if I'm behind (since I am basically pot committed) . It is much better to check-raise all-in here. It's the only line that makes maximum value for me. Being a LAG there is no way he checks from behind, and once he has committed chips on the flop he becomes low stacked enough to justify any call.
Game:
2/4 NL Holdem Cash Game (6 Handed)
Preflop:
LearsFool Raises $12.00 to $16.00 with 9♣ 9♠,
Villain Raises $12.00 to $28.00
Flop: 4♦ 5♦ 8♣
LearsFool Bets $35.00,
Villain raises $33.50 to $68.50 and is all in,
LearsFool call $28.75 and is all-in.
I called the all in figuring I was slightly behind A♦ K♦
He showed me A♠ A♣.
He wins, I lose.
I think the fact that I called and he showed Aces is far less relevant or interesting than the actual play of the hand. You see, regardless of the outcome I feel I played this hand very badly on the flop.
Preflop there is one of two possibilities; either I'm ahead or I'm behind. If I believe that I am behind, then I am drawing to 2 outs on the flop which I will hit roughly 12% of the time. So, in order for me to call the re-raise from behind I have to have implied odds of at least 8.4:1 which, in this case, I do. So, calling from behind here pre-flop is not terrible. If I miss I can check-fold. If I hit I can lead into the raiser for 1/2 to 2/3 the pot and I should stack him when he comes over top of me all-in (if I had pocket 8s here instead of 9s I would have taken all his money).
If I believe I am ahead, then there are two further possibilities; I'm either way ahead or slightly ahead. For me to be way ahead, he would have to have a smaller pair and even though he is a LAG player I do not see him re-raising with 88 or lower. For me to be slightly ahead he would have to be holding 2 overs, the most likely of which are Ace King. This is what I put him on, I believed he had AK.
Given that I put him on AK, leading the flop here is terrible. I make no money if I am ahead, and I am forced to jeapordize my entire stack if I'm behind (since I am basically pot committed) . It is much better to check-raise all-in here. It's the only line that makes maximum value for me. Being a LAG there is no way he checks from behind, and once he has committed chips on the flop he becomes low stacked enough to justify any call.
posted by Bill Sparks at 8:45 AM
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